i forgot, here's the German (letsee, Germany...that's in South America??)
adress for Clim Air the makers of the OEM ventshades for vw..

Clim Air
Haupt Strasse 99
Karben, Germany
D-61184

phone#
01149603991630

i was wondering if any German listmembers (Helmut?) could contact Clim Air's
Headquarters in Germany and ask them if they have any sunroof wind deflectors
for the Vanagon factory sunroof in stock.. i know they're technically NLA, but
maybe they'd have a few leftovers.

once again, heres the website for Mac Neil Auto, the sole US importer of Clim
Air.
http://www.macneilauto.com
you can order stuff right off their site.

the pair was $45 for the vanagon front windows, and is OEM, and TUV approved.
easy to install, too..

chris