

| Subject: | lug nuts--broke a socket--socket strength investigations... |
| From: | Derek Drew |
| Date: | Tue, 7 Apr 1998 12:10:58 -0400 |
This post concerns a quest for the strongest sockets made--Sears vs. snap on, 3/4" drive vs. 1/2" drive, impact sockets vs. regular sockets. So in the middle of all these posts about the proper tightening torque for lug nuts (I think there's been a new factory bulletin issued lowering the torque spec to 110ft lbs., by the way) I went four wheeling and broke my tire. When I went to change it, I was horrified to find that I could not remove the lug nut until after about 1 hour of attempting to do it with a star wrench. The star wrench didn't seem to be quite the right size, and I felt it was in danger of rounding the nuts. Meanwhile, I finally suceeded only after squirting liquid wrench in there and using cheater bars. So when I got home I decided to loosen them all and retorque them, just for safety sake preparing for the next time. Well, wouldn't you know, most of the lug nuts were frozen on and I had to use a 1/2" breaker bar and 1/2" socket to get the lug nuts off. The star wrench this time did indeed round one of the nuts and I had to throw this nut away. Serves me right for using no-name Harbor Freight tools, but the last lug nut was so tight I had to use a 5 foot cheater bar on a 4 foot breaker bar and my 1/2" 19mm socket broke! So I changed to a Sears brand 19mm 12 point socket and sure enough the socket did not break and the lug nut came off. Hummm.... Maybe Sears is better than Harbor Freight no-name after all. During this procedure, I noticed that the 1/2" breaker bar was under severe stress during this procedrue so I decided to get a socket for my 3/4" breaker bar so that I would have no doubt in the future as to my ability to remove these wheel nuts without destroying the breaker bar. But the fact is, Sears does not make a 3/4" 19mm socket. So I called 1-800-tools-for-u yesterday (Snap-On) and they said they don't make a 3/4" socket either in regular form, but they do make an impact socket version. So innocently, I asked the Snap-On fellow if the 3/4" impact socket would be stronger and the fellow said this: he said the impact sockets are made of softer steel and are not as hard as the regular sockets. Further, he said they are *cheaper* than the regular sockets and he did not know whether they would be stronger or weaker for my application. I thought an impact socket was always stronger, but what do I know? I am not tempted to order from tools-for-u the 3/4" impact socket unless one of the list members has the opnion that a non-impact socket (regular style) would be stronger. Comments on all of this, anyone? _____________________________________________________ Derek Drew New York, NY & Washington DC ConsumerSearch drew@interport.net 212-580-6486 (W) 212-580-4459 (H)
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