>At 10:47 PM 09/04/98 -0500, Ken Hooper wrote:
>>> >You have asserted in public, in writing, that you own the
>copyright (along
>>with the author) to everything ever posted to the Vanagon list. You have
>>also asserted that you may sell copies of those messages, for your sole
>>profit (not the author's), if you so please, without permission of the
>>authors.
>
>I don't much care about this one way or the other, but let me point out
>that the internet was originally set up by and for universities, and the
>rules included the right to copy at will.  That is still the rule.  HOWEVER
>it is not correct to say that the founders of the archives hold the
>copyright - if something of mine appears there I can still use it if I want
>to.  So can anyone else.  There IS no copyright.

Actually, Ken was misstaken when he stated that above.  What we state is:

   In order to ensure the availability of this information,
   submitters to the vanagon mailing list agree to grant the
   list managers a license for printed and electronic
   distribution of submitted articles into compilations.
   [...]
   All articles are considered copyrighted by their authors.

I believe that this last clause serves as a copyright notice protecting
folks posting to the list.

Coyote