

| Subject: | Re: diesel head identification |
| From: | bertschi |
| Date: | Tue, 26 May 1998 07:02:00 -0400 |
Thanks Justin, I remember reading about the bolt diameter difference, I think they are 11 and 12mm. I'm considereing the change becuse I have no history on the existing head, and the spare is already rebuilt and assembled. I'm putting on a new head gasket anyway.....so why not?? Thanks again, Dan PS. Could I ask for a re-post of the vw diesel specific mailing list, please?? ---------- > From: Justin B. Jensen <jjensen@sprintmail.com> > To: bertschi <bertschi@BRIGHT.NET> > Subject: Re: diesel head identification > Date: Monday, May 25, 1998 11:49 PM > > Dan, > What you will find that differentiates these cylinder heads is the head bolt > diameters. The older heads used a bolt of 10mm (from memory, I'm not > positive on the dimension) while the newer heads used bolts of 12mm (once > again from memory, not positive about dimensions) If both heads are of the > same bolt diameter then they should interchange. As for gaskets, the > notches indicate gasket thickness and is relative to the block, not the > head. The engines have variations in machining tolerances which resulted in > varying deck heights. The gaskets of varying thickness are to allow for > piston crown to cylinder head clearance based on the differing deck heights. > There is a simple procedure in the Bentley and other manuals covering this > engine that will walk you through measuring the piston protrusion above the > block deck with the respective piston at top dead center on its stroke. I > have never seen a five notch gasket; only one, two and three notches with > three being the thickest gasket. The Bentley will give you spec's on the > thickness of the various gaskets. > > >From curiosity, why are you looking to change the head on an engine that is > running? > > Good luck and regards, > Justin Jensen > SLC Utah > -----Original Message----- > From: bertschi <bertschi@BRIGHT.NET> > To: Vanagon@VANAGON.COM <Vanagon@VANAGON.COM> > Date: Monday, May 25, 1998 7:59 AM > Subject: diesel head identification > > > >This is for all the diesel heads out there..... > >I have an '81 pick-up, (I know this is a vanagon list, but I used to own an > >'80, and I'm looking for my next one.....besides, I've found all vanagon > >people to be extremely helpful :) going on....my truck came with a running > >engine installed, (used from a rabbit sedan) and a basket full of original > >parts that were ready to be rebuilt. The head is rebuilt, assembled, and > >ready to bolt on. But I'm hesitant..... > > The head gasket on the truck engine is a 2-notch. (1600cc, right?) The > >head on the truck has the following casting identification marks....068 103 > >373 F (part number) MEXICO (country of origin) date code in 3 small circles > >vertcally, top to bottom are, (5), (3), (12), finally near #4 cyl there is > >3ME 5. When the injector heat shields are removed, the seats are in good > >shape with a hole about 1/2" dia. > > The rebuilt head came with a 5-notch gasket. (1500cc??) The casting > >identifications are as follows...068103373 (part number) above the part > >number is 271, a round knobby as tall the letters, but 3mm thick, followed > >by WWO. Below and to the right of the part number is a letter H. > >(corresponding to the F in the other head?) and on the rotary date marker, > >the following numbers are in line with the arrow...15304. (I can't tell if > >it is a combo year/Julian date) The heat sink seats on it are on about 1/4" > >diameter when the heat shields are removed, and one is corroded above the > >glow plug. > > Bottom line if you're still here......can I use the rebuilt head on my > >truck? Are they interchangable? (no liability here, just looking for > >advice) Is there something else I should look at to determine this? Should > >I consider it w/ the corroded seat and smaller holes? Do the bigger holes > >give better fuel flow dispersion? > > I'm putting on a rebuilt pump and injectors, and I just thought why not > >use the rebuilt head now? > > Thanks for any help....enjoy your holiday (if you're able to get off > >work) and please take a moment to rememer the vets who made it possible for > >us to live in a society of choice. > >Dan > >bertschi@bright.net > > >
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