

| Subject: | Re: Pre-loading Rear Suspension :~o |
| From: | Mark Drillock |
| Date: | Tue, 30 Jun 1998 06:33:56 -0700 |
Steven X. Schwenk wrote: > > The majority opinion says inserting a spacer only raises the van height > by the thickness of the spacer without affecting spring or suspension > characteristics. The dissenting opinion says, no, that's wrong; when > you insert the spacer between the spring perches, you compress the > spring within the perches, so that even with no weight on it, it is > compressed further than with no spacer at any given point in the > suspension travel, and hence stifferr than without the spacer. > > The majority opinion is erroneous in that it assumes that inserting a > spacer between the spring and top perch is the same as simply placing a > spacer on top of a free-standing spring ... which just lifts the van and > does not change the spring at all. The majority's mistake is in not > taking into consideration that the spring is confined within spring > perches of a limited maximum length that does not change when the spacer > is added. By inserting the spacer between the spring and the top spring > perch, you compress the spring by the width of the spacer, and it is > compressed that much further at any given point in the travel over what > it would be without the spacer...and it is this compressed spring's > characteristics you are starting out with, not the same, free standing > spring with just a spacer sitting on top of it. steve Sorry Steve, I thought that Jim Davis' drawing ended the preload dispute showing as it does that the upper limit of the suspension has no effect on the static load on the spring. I agree with you that the spacer improves the performance of the suspension. I think that your misconception is based on your use of a motorcycle as your model. The motorcycle model is a very good match to the syncro rear suspension except for one critical part. The vanagon at rest always loads the rear spring enough to compress it down from the shock travel limit. On a motorcycle, particularly one designed for dirt riding, the rear suspension is against its upper limit stop(the shock) unless a rider is actually sitting on the seat. If you have someone sit on the bike and compress the rear spring with the preload adjustment set to soft, then compare what happens as you increase the preload setting, you should be able to see that the rider is lifted by the distance of the preload adjustment(a variable spacer). This adjustment causes a very real change in the suspensions behavior as would putting a spacer in the vanagon. The dispute seems to be that you think there is some other force compressing the vanagon spring other than the weight of the van. Unless the van is up against the suspension stop(and it isn't when its parked), gravity is all there is. Mark Drillock
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