>| I will rephrase, Kelly is right in some respect, the Haynes does at least
>| still deal with repairs in a text oriented sensible stepwise manner, like I
>| said I feel the Bentley Vanagon is the second worst Bentley ever made only
>| to the Corrado book, with the Quantum manual being in there close.  But it
>| plain lacks information, lots of information, got a syncro, forget it, got
>| an auto tranny, forget it, got A/C, forget it, and more.

        There are times when it is nice to have a second book to pursue when
the Bentley offers two different torque values for nuts on different pages.
There is also a few places when the Bentley does not mention things should
be replaced and the Haynes provides enough information to make a better
decision (connecting rod bolts immediately jump to mind)...

dave