First, I second the cudo's for Richard.  This is the kind of info that I
believe inquiring minds want to know.
Second, Kyle, As someone who has obviously spent some time since leaving the
turnip truck, you should appreciate the questioning attitude that the list
has sent your direction.  This list is pretty much open to all reasonable
participants and it is not unusual for someone to support a mod that is a
little optimistic.  I don't think this was intended to be a personal
challenge as to your integrity, instead, a reasonable exploring of an idea
that would be incredible if we find out all of the tradeoffs.  Remember when
a power pulley was thought the be the answer?  Sure you saved some power
spinning the fan, but longevity suffered.  When I raced a beetle, every
option was explored if I thought it would help.  But then again, I sort of
expected to be pulling the engine every couple of weeks.  Thats the game in
that arena.   My Vanagons are daily drivers and I don't care to be doing a
rebuild annually.  When I broke my beetle, I could just walk away for a
while or put in a spare motor.   I don't want that situation in my (or my
wife's) van.  After looking at Vintage VeeDub's  web site, I felt a lot more
comfortable with their understanding of what they are doing.  I hope to be
able pull a trailer with the best of them in my Syncro and this might be the
answer.  I just know from personal experience that the scool of hard knocks
can have a pretty high tuition.  (like the
'81 westy that I have that is stroked, still trying to get the FI right.)
In summary, please don't be discouraged by the challenges you're recieving,
that's how an idea gets refined and proven.  Let's just all remember that
personal slams do nothing to forward the cause.  Thank you Kyle for your
efforts.
Mark Rokus

vwmaster@VOLKS-MOTORSPORTS.COM wrote:

> Lawrence,
>
>   You've done your homework here:)  You also gave GOOD info on the exact
> "Job" the chip does as well as what Richard had informed me about Not
> running rockers Only like SO MANY of the listees wanted to do.
>
>   I'll still offer the "Kit" so to speak. at the $825.00 if I can get
> enough people so I can order 10 kits from Berg.
>
>   I'm still going to do the Dyno Run to post on My web site.
>
>   If anymore of you listees want to sit down, and figure out the cost of
> the chip as Lawrence Quoted it, then call Gene Berg and get a price for
> the 1.4 Rocker assy, then buy a set of Chromoly Pushrods and cut them to
> the correct geometry, I must say that a important piece of info was left
> out of Lawrences post and that you neeed to do a slight bit of machining
> to the rockers to get them to adjust correctly too.
>
>   Then you all WILL SEE that the $825.00 price tag I offered these at
> IS/WAS a good deal since all the work would have been done to the
> pushrods and the rockers and all you would have had to do was install.
>
>   Installation of this kit will take a decent tech an Hour.
>
>   I can't wait to see what this round of ECU Rocker thread brings up?
>
>   Enter the Ring for Round #3!!!!!!!!
>
>   Kyle
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