At 7:48 PM 7/29/98, John Rogers wrote:
>Hey Kyle, I for one appreciate your behind the scenes story on this
>intriguing engine swap,for that dude to imply that your offer to
>personally answer e-mail questions was commercially motivated was out of
>line.I thank you on behalf of other quasi-lurkers tuning in to this
>story.

        As "that dude", I resent the fact that somehow I'm being cast as
        a villain for pointing out what can/may happen when discussions of
        interest disappear to p-mail...AND I explicitly labeled my statement
        as opinion...( IMHO = In my Humble Opinion ).

        To think that Kyle or any other vendor/service provider who posts to
        the vanagon list isn't "commercially motivated" is just plain silly!
        It's probably equally silly for vendors to shy away from posting to
        the list factual information about the products/parts they sell
        when said products/parts are new or, as yet, unknown...to avoid
        being publicly excoriated for "commercial activity". It's possible
        that Kyle has become overly sensitive to criticism of commercial
        postings, or perception thereof, as a result of the Ratio Rockers
        and ECU Chip Kit discussion earlier this spring (Which, given the
        price, seems like a cheap power add-on, compared to the Eurospec
        transplant)...

        What's weird is that I was actually trying to do him and Eurospec a
        favor by pointing out (obviously using the wrong tone of words)that
        it was important for factual information surrounding the Eurospec
        conversion to be posted - in detail - to the list. The ensuing
        discussion will bring out more information from other quarters, as
        it already has, and enrichen all of us.

        Following is engine specs for the 4cyl engines currently available
        for the New Beetle (the 2.0 specs are the same for the Golf/Jetta/
        Passat with the exception of torque peak being at 3200rpm). I invite
        anyone who has a copy of the EuroCar article on the conversion
        to fill in the Eurospec column with factual information:

                   Current   Volkswagen           Eurospec    Vanagon
                Gas              TDI                            ('89+)
Type            2.0I,            1.9I,             2.0L         2.1L
                4-cylinder,      4-cylinder,       4-cylinder,  4-cylinder,
                in-line          in-line           in-line      opposed

Bore in.        3.25             3.13              B.BB         3.70
Stroke in.      3.65             3.76              S.SS         2.99
Disp in3        121.1/1984 cm3   115.7/1896 cm3    III.i        129/2109 cm3
Comp Ratio      10.0 : 1         19.5 : 1          ??????       9.0:1
HP(SAE)@rpm     115 @ 5200       90 @ 4000         HPHP@ rrrr   90 @ 4800
                (85 kW @ 5200)   (66 kW @ 4000)
Max.torque,     122 @ 2600       149 @ 1900        TTT@ rrrr    117.3@ 3200
lbs-ft @ rpm    (165 Nm @ 2600)   (202 Nm @ 1900)

Fuel            RegularUnl'ded    Diesel                        RegularUnl'ded

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