Another consideration, do these rockers rotate the valves as the stock ones
do?  I am still interested in trying this kit.  I think this really needs to
be combined with a better muffler and larger cat for best results.  Maybe
the Stebro exhaust can help us here.

Dennis

-----Original Message-----
From: Derek Drew <drew@INTERPORT.NET>
To: Vanagon@VANAGON.COM <Vanagon@VANAGON.COM>
Date: Friday, July 31, 1998 10:57 AM
Subject: Re: ECU Chip Upgrade Info/Dennis Haynes concerns

>The chip/rocker thing is better nearing critical mass in terms of having
>adequate discussion.
>
>This dude weighing in from Australia was really great.
>
>We need to have some additional discussion of these points of Dennis
Haynes:
>
>The down side of this is increased valve guide wear
>from the increased valve travel and the increase operating angle of the
>rocker working against the valve.  I have worked with both ratio rockers
and
>hi-lift cams so I have first hand experience with the increased wear this
>can cause.  In fact, many cars (stock) that still use rockers are going to
>roller rockers to solve the valve side loading problem.  My beetle running
a
>Cam with 40k on the engine is getting ready for a valve job now due to
>guides being worn and the backs of the valve stems being all pounded out.
>
>The point above needs to have a serious, balanced comeback, and hopefully
>commentary from the austrailian fellow too.
>
>Dennis also worries about having a richer mixture damaging the catalyst.
>Yes, this thing needs to have a third round of discussion before it gets
>out of the garage.
>
>Predictions: the first additional 3 pioneers will go forward this fall. By
>summer of 1999 you will have 12 orders already. By late Fall of 1999 you
>will be up to 15 orders per quarter, or max out at about 60 vans a year.
>There is a slight chance that if we get hit real hard with more solid info,
>and the dyno results you spoke of, that you can get 10 orders in advance as
>a group order, but this may not come for a few months yet or even after the
>end of the year.
>
>
>At 07:14 AM 7/31/98 -0700, you wrote:
>>Lawrence,
>>
>>  You've done your homework here:)  You also gave GOOD info on the exact
>>"Job" the chip does as well as what Richard had informed me about Not
>>running rockers Only like SO MANY of the listees wanted to do.
>>
>>  I'll still offer the "Kit" so to speak. at the $825.00 if I can get
>
>
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