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Subject:Re: Shuddering rear end when letting clutch out.
From:Gary Shea
Date:Sun, 2 Aug 1998 18:13:04 -0600

On Sun, 2 Aug 1998, Tom Young wrote:
> How about the motor mounts?  I know when I swapped out the engine in my
> van a couple of years ago, I also replaced these, and have been "shudder
> free" so far.  If replacing all these parts doesn't cure the situation
> for long, then it seems like it has to be something else wearing out.  I
> wonder if rear spring sag (another recurring "Vanagon" problem) could
> contribute to the shudder?

Good point.  I must admit it's my fault that you had to think of it,
since I replaced the motor mounts at the same time I replaced all
the clutch parts ;)  I must admit, after replacing all that stuff,
I thought I'd won the shuddering wars.  But nope.

Got pmail today suggesting that the new Sachs replacment
clutches (I'm presuming that means clutch plates) look quite a bit
different from the old ones; hopefully it'll cure the shuddering
problem.

The rear spring sag idea is a new one to me....
gonna have to think about that.  How much do they sag?  I have
a Westy so it's heavy back there, and it's usually loaded up with
all the tools I need to fix it in the middle of nowhere!

        Gary

> On Sun, 2 Aug 1998, Gary Shea wrote:
>
> > My personal experience is that replacing everything is not a cure, merely
> > a temporary palliative.  When the problem first cropped up in my van,
> > I replaced the clutch disc and throw out bearing; that 'cured' the
> > problem for maybe two months or so.  A few years later when I did a
> > total engine rebuild I replaced the pressure plate, clutch plate,
> > t.o. bearing and pilot bearing.  Again 'cured, but only for
> > a couple of months.  I did not have the flywheel refaced, however,
> > others on the list have reported having the flywheel resurfaced followed
> > by the eventual (sooner rather than later, to my recollection) return
>
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> Tom Young               young@sherlock.SIMS.Berkeley.EDU
> Lafayette, CA  94549    '81 Vanagon
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Gary Shea                                       shea@xmission.com
Salt Lake City                      http://www.xmission.com/~shea