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Subject:Re: R12 - Freon
From:Frank Terhaar-Yonkers
Date:Fri, 21 Aug 1998 08:07:07 -0400

I'm not sure of the nomenclature (FR-12 etc), they make a couple of different
products and this is the stuff that's a direct R-12 drop-in substitute.

As for temp, I haven't actually measured it, but it *seems* just as good as
it was when there was full charge of R-12.

- Frank

 >Is this the stuff they call FR-12? How did it compare
 >in temperature?
 >
 >
 >            Eric                   86-VW4x4
 >            vw4x4@fyi.net          72-240z
 >            Pittsburgh, PA USA     1936-Chrysler
 >
 >
 >On Fri, 21 Aug 1998, Frank Terhaar-Yonkers wrote:
 >
 >> Folks -
 >>
 >> I've been running the an R-12 (Autofrost) substitute all summer now and can
 >> report that it works just fine.  It's a bit more expensive that R-134 ($250 for
 >> a 25lb jug) but *no* conversion is required.
 >>
 >> - Frank
 >>
 >>  >Subject:      Re: R12 - Freon
 >>  >To: Vanagon@VANAGON.COM
 >>  >
 >>  >Yes, this is true, but the fact remains that r-12 is being phased out
 >>  >and will someday no longer be avail in The States.  Only recycled is now
 >>  >and it requires a special licence to be purchased.  It is now very
 >>  >expensive.
 >>  >
 >>  >FHerzig@swri.edu wrote:
 >>  >
 >>  >> Sorry folks, but the patent on Freon ran out long ago, sometime
 >>  >> before 1974. At NASA-Langley we had a wind tunnel that flowed
 >>  >> Freon rather than air and when the patent ran out, the cost to
 >>  >> supply the wind tunnel dropped in half because of competition.
 >>  >> Patents are only for 17 years (generally, some specific situations
 >>  >> can modify it slightly) and Freon has been around a long time.
 >>  >>
 >>  >> Frank Herzig
 >>  >> '85 Vanagon, with AC but took the compressor belt off long ago.
 >>  >
 >>
 >>
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 >

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Frank Terhaar-Yonkers
Cisco Systems, Inc.
Cat3900 Software Team
7025 Kit Creek Road  PO Box 14987
Research Triangle Park,  North Carolina  27709
fty@cisco.com   voice (919)472-2101   FAX (919)472-2940