In a message dated 98-11-06 01:46:06 EST, jwelsh29@IDT.NET writes:

<< I bought the ones from MacNeil Automotive;  they were mentioned here on
 the list and should be in the archives.  I shipped them back because I
 felt they interfered with my vision too much, but they are fine quality
 German-made items and would be good for a rainy climate.  $44.95,
 MacNeil Automotive, 2435 Wisconsin St, Downers Grove, Il 60515,
 800/441-6287.
  >>

yep, this was them....sorry, i forgot the info..

chris