FYI
Slick-50 is the butt end of a class action law suit. Something about not
actually having any real data to back up their claims, and the "independent"
labs that "tested" the junk didn't really exist. I know this because I sent
in a  $3.00 refund card for slick-50 and a few months later got a registered
piece of mail from some lawyer saying I was part of a class action lawsuit.
Took me a few beers to get the courage up to open the letter though...
take care
Matthew
84 Weekender that is about to embark on a long road trip
67 Bug that sits fallow in the driveway

> -----Original Message-----
> From: KBatzler [SMTP:KBatzler@EMAIL.MSN.COM]
> Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 1998 8:32 PM
> To:   vanagon@VANAGON.COM
> Subject:      Re: Warning against engine additives! was: Strange Noise
> Fixed, I think
>
> Hi Ken,
> The stuff I added is an oil detergent....I wouldn't even think of adding
> anything with Teflon or slick 50 or anything thick.  CD-2 has the
> consistency of 20w motor oil and probably works something like Mystery
> Oil.
> I would like to stress that your right in the sense that I would not
> recommend putting any additives in your vehicle that has no problems in
> the
> first place.
> Also, I added CD-2 with 20w50 motor oil which I would normally add 10w40
> because I knew that CD-2 would thin out the oil a bit.
> At least in my case bought me some time because the motor has about 10k on
> new heads and 100k on the motor.
> I hope this clears things up a bit.
> Thanks
> Karl Batzler
> 84 Vanagon
> 192k miles
> La Quinta, CA
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: KENWILFY@AOL.COM <KENWILFY@AOL.COM>
> >To: vanagon@VANAGON.COM <vanagon@VANAGON.COM>
> >Date: Tuesday, November 17, 1998 2:59 PM
> >Subject: Warning against engine additives! was: Strange Noise Fixed, I
> think
> >
> >
> >>I am glad that Karl has found something to keep his van on the road and
> I
> >>wasn't going to say anything until he started encouraging other Vanagon
> >owners
> >>to try this stuff.  I found no problem with Karl trying it since his van
> >had
> >>high mileage anyway (190k miles I believe) but I must warn you that as a
> >>mechanic I would advise anyone with a halfway decent motor to please not
> >put
> >>any oil additives into thier motor (Slick 50, Motor UP, CD-2, motor
> Honey,
> >any
> >>Teflon based additive et al).  Why?  These additives usually do nothing
> >>beneficial in a motor (usually find it in a big clump on the bottom of
> the
> >oil
> >>pan when it comes time to rebuild the motor) and can in fact damage a
> good
> >>motor by restricting oil galleys and other orifices inside the motor.  I
> >hear
> >>very few good stories about these additives but many horror stories.
> >>Just think about it: If that stuff you are pouring into your motor flows
> >like
> >>honey in the heat of the summer, what do you think it is doing in your
> >motor
> >>in the winter?
> >>I can understand folks with tired motors trying these additives as a
> last
> >>effort to try and get another year out of their engine, but to put this
> >stuff
> >>in a good motor would be a crime.
> >>This is my 2 cents on this subject anyway.
> >>Ken Wilford
> >>Van-Again
> >>John 3:16
> >>
> >
> >