what is this a kkk rally or what???wake up people?
-----Original Message-----
From: Tim Smith <smitht@UNB.CA>
To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM <vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM>
Date: Monday, January 18, 1999 4:12 PM
Subject: Bus Depot SPAM, again!

>Jezuuz H...
>(or pick a diety of your choice)
>
>Kent Christenson sent a nicely phrased message a couple of weeks back how
>this list was "over the top" as far as advertising goes, and this latest
>spamming from Salmon (below) is typical of the worst of it!  This is a
>blatant plug for his business, sugar coat it however you want to. It was
>NOT a kind little PSA to illuminate us into the intricacies of vanagon
>filters, it was a plug, plain and simple.
>
>I too subscribe(d) to other lists, Audi, Porsche, and Off-Road, and the
>vanagon list is the worst. Please don't reply with some anti-elitist crap
>that 'perhaps you should stay on the LandRover?BMW/etc list, since you can
>aford dealer parts"  There IS a problem with spam on this list, more than
>any other list I've been on.  Something needs to be done, either go
>commercial, charge the vendors for access priveliges and monthly
>advertising rights, or simply put a block on vendors posting to the list.
>I hate to advocate a moderated list, especially due to the workload this
>imposes on any listmeister, but uninformative posts designed only to sell
>product or bring attention to a vanagon related business have no place on
>the list and need to be moderated.  Perhaps if vendors policed themselves I
>wouldn't have to bring this non-vanagon issue up again.
>
>pissed off again by sales weasels, XOXOX, Tim Smith
>
>.......  the offending article (see at end also)
>
>Date:    Sun, 17 Jan 1999 12:44:07 -0500
>From:    The Bus Depot <ron@NETCARRIER.COM>
>Subject: Re: Oilfilters 1:st oilchange
>
>Regarding the question of economical cross-references for the expensive
>Dealer oil filters for your Vanagon:
>
>The two original oil filter suppliers to Volkswagen are Mann and Mahle. I
>stock them under the actual manufacturers' names, rather than the
Volkswagen
>name, for much less than the dealer price.   I variously ship either Mann
or
>Mahle depending on which I can get at a better price at any given time.
They
>are interchangeable in terms of quality, and both feature the correct flow
>characteristics for the Vanagon engine. Not all aftermarket filters do.
>
>For the watercooled Vanagons, they are $4.29 each.  For the aircooled
>Vanagons, $3.99 each. Minimum purchase is 4.
>
>- Ron Salmon
>  The Bus Depot
>
>
>and a final note.....
>
>Just to put this deal in context I buy my wasser Bosch oilfilters for
>$4.99Cdn at my local hardware/FLAPS store. This is ~$3.25US for Bosch
>filters in a Bosch box, so $4.29 is a rip-off, and I don't have to buy 4 at
>a time nor pay shipping.  Wake up folks, he's only in it for the money,
>yours!
>