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Subject:Re: Twelve, Six and a verdict on Vanagons
From:Tom L. Neal
Date:Thu, 1 Apr 1999 07:51:59 -0800

Good addition.
Also, don't listen or talk on cell phones while driving.
It's illegal in civilized countries and states, many of the same ones
that don't allow civilians to arm themselves with AK-47's.

Following the  list is EXTREMELY important on Autobahn 8 approaching
Stuttgart, but the rules can be relaxed somewhat,  for example
the hand waving, on Interstate 10 while crossing the Pecos River.
However, watch out for speed traps on the freeways near the towns in
the wide open spaces.  That's a main income source.

On the lighter side (no vanagon content),
has anyone ever seen what many Italians do with their hands while
talking on a cell phone walking down a public street? That is a sight.
Just who is going to see that wild gesticulating but people who aren't on
the other end of the line?

Cheers, Tom Neal

On Thu, 1 Apr 1999, David..M wrote:

> Dr. Rainer Woitok wrote:
> >
> > So to add more to Kari's list:
> >
> > N+1: By all  means, leave the handgun at  home for the plenty of reasons
> > already outlined on the list.
> >
> > N+2: Don't drive  when you're tired.   No "Keep  on going  ... it's only
> > twenty more miles to this campground ..."
> >
> > N+3: No alcohol (and other drugs :-) before and while you're driving.
> >
> > N+4: No smoking  while driving  ...  it detracts your attention  in many
> > ways.  If you have to smoke, have a break.
> >
> > N+5: No chatting  and gossipping while  driving.  It, too, detracts your
> > attention in many ways.  While in the driver's seat,  your hands are for
> > the steering wheel and the shifter only, not for gesticulating.  And, of
> > course ... keep your eyes on the road, not on your passengers.
> >
> > N+6: If you happen to have a van with captain's  seats use the armrests,
> > at   least while driving  on highways.  It  makes for  much more relaxed
> > driving.
> >
> > N+7: No Heavy Metal  "music" and similar  noise while driving.   It only
> > makes for aggressive driving.  Rather,  get a set  of classic CDs or MCs
> > and listen to them.
> >
> > N+8: If you have to  consult a map, either  stop or delegate this job to
> > your passengers (I _have_ seen people overtaking  me on the highway with
> > a map  unfolded across  the  steering wheel  ...  I hope  they're  still
> > alive).
> >
> > Well, that's  my two  Deutschpfenning's worth,  and as  allways --  your
> > mileage may vary ...
> >
> An EXCELLENT post. And I would add WEAR YOUR SEAT BELT (remember what
> happened to Diana, Princess of Wales).
>