Volks,
My fingers are getting callused from hitting the delete button.
I for one vote for ending what has mutated from a good natured vanagon
vacation discussion into a testosterone charged gun debate.

This thread is now outside the agreed upon focus of this list:
Vanagon Content Only.

How about let's get back to helping others with their vanagon problems?

For instance, there is a nice gentleman from Korea named Chibong Oh who is
bravely struggling with his English and would like to have an answer to his
coolant question. Can someone please be a good ambassador and give him and
answer? (I don't know the answer or I would send it to him.)

Thanks,
Bill
90 Westy Syncro
-----Original Message-----
From: Larry Hamm <ldhamm@XMISSION.COM>
To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM <vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM>
Date: Thursday, April 01, 1999 5:16 PM
Subject: Re: Guns and their utility

>Ian Cameron wrote:
>>  For purposes of one
>> of the sociology courses I teach, I started tracking all gun-related
>> stories in the 16 searchable newspapers in our library.
>>
>> Conclusions: If you carry a gun it's not likely to save your life, but
>> there's a chance someone near and dear will shoot you with it.
>
>Ian,
>If you truly think that someone will call the newspaper every time they
>run off some scumbag by the use of a gun, then you need to think again.
>In the last thirty years, I have had occasion to protect my
>life/family/property with a gun four times. Not once did I call the news
>services to have them run a story. Of course, gun injuries and deaths
>almost always make the front page.
>Your "conclusion" is so much male bovine excrement. Check to see if your
>educational institution offers a course in logic, and sign up.
>A .380 automatic is standard equipment in my Westy. (Vanagon content)
>
>Larry
>PS. Sorry, Kari, I should have told you not to take THIS discussion
>public!
>