I apologize for adding my testostrone into the quagmire of public safety
issues, as well as getting downright silly.

Seriously, I only hope maybe the 'debate' will help even just one of us
Vanagonians to be more conscious of our own safety instead of taking it for
granted.

HKS

At 05:30 PM 4/1/99 -0800, Davidson wrote:
>Volks,
>My fingers are getting callused from hitting the delete button.
>I for one vote for ending what has mutated from a good natured vanagon
>vacation discussion into a testosterone charged gun debate.
>
>This thread is now outside the agreed upon focus of this list:
>Vanagon Content Only.
>
>How about let's get back to helping others with their vanagon problems?
>
>For instance, there is a nice gentleman from Korea named Chibong Oh who is
>bravely struggling with his English and would like to have an answer to his
>coolant question. Can someone please be a good ambassador and give him and
>answer? (I don't know the answer or I would send it to him.)
>
>Thanks,
>Bill
>90 Westy Syncro
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Larry Hamm <ldhamm@XMISSION.COM>
>To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM <vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM>
>Date: Thursday, April 01, 1999 5:16 PM
>Subject: Re: Guns and their utility
>
>
>>Ian Cameron wrote:
>>>  For purposes of one
>>> of the sociology courses I teach, I started tracking all gun-related
>>> stories in the 16 searchable newspapers in our library.
>>>
>>> Conclusions: If you carry a gun it's not likely to save your life, but
>>> there's a chance someone near and dear will shoot you with it.
>>
>>Ian,
>>If you truly think that someone will call the newspaper every time they
>>run off some scumbag by the use of a gun, then you need to think again.
>>In the last thirty years, I have had occasion to protect my
>>life/family/property with a gun four times. Not once did I call the news
>>services to have them run a story. Of course, gun injuries and deaths
>>almost always make the front page.
>>Your "conclusion" is so much male bovine excrement. Check to see if your
>>educational institution offers a course in logic, and sign up.
>>A .380 automatic is standard equipment in my Westy. (Vanagon content)
>>
>>Larry
>>PS. Sorry, Kari, I should have told you not to take THIS discussion
>>public!
>>