The spring rate is 17% stiffer than the Syncro "pink" springs [standard
14"].  They have a black semi-gloss finish which I do not believe is power
coated.  The springs only are $200 CAD or aprox $138 USD.

At 21:59 25/05/1999 -0700, Steven X. Schwenk wrote:
>David, there's nothing wrong with making a profit, i just wanted to
clarify that i
>had no profit motive...or would be making no profit.  This is a list
purchase.  As
>for using your springs,  we would need to know the exact spring rate,
whether they
>were set after being wound, are shot peened and powder coated, etc.  Your
web page
>does not provide that info.  Also, at this point, the work's done pretty
much,
>except for a couple of measurements that would been to be made using
yours, too.
>How much for your springs without the rear lift spacer?
>steve
>
>David Marshall wrote:
>
>> I'm just trying to save you some work, time and money here Steve.  As you
>> already may know there is nothing "special" about the front Syncro springs,
>> as in the spacing between coils is uniform thoughout.  My springs are 15%
>> stiffer than stock and everyone has commented quite positivly on the ride
>> quality.  If ride height is a concern get the trusty hack saw out and cut
>> part of the coil to make it the height you want it - nothing dangerous
>> about this as this is how they are made at the factory.
>>
>> About the profit thing... yes, I do make a few bucks at these, but remember
>> this isn't my day job, so I'm not getting rich from doing it.
>>
>> At 18:24 25/05/1999 -0700, Steven X. Schwenk wrote:
>> >From: "Steven X. Schwenk" <Steve@Schwenk-Law.com>
>> >
>> >To clear up any confusion, the two springs are very different.  The
>> >list-purchase custom springs will offer better performance for most syncro
>> >owners than the taller, commercially offered springs.  The list springs
are
>> >being designed (spec wise) by engineers, not by me.  The goal is optimum
>> >suspension performance, not jacking the van up.  Maintaining stock
>> >ride-height will result in a more stable and better handling van, and
hence a
>> >more off-road worthy van for the my intended use....which is not
traversing
>> >rock fields or terrain where incresaing ground clearance becomes a
necessity
>> >or is critical.  Cornering, traction, stability down off-camber steep
>> >downhills on loose gravel and on high-speed washboard are higher
priorities
>> >for me than another inch or so of ground clearance.  The list-purchase
>> >springs will out perform the taller springs on this type of terrain,
and on
>> >the highway, too.  The suspension will perform better overall, too, IMO,
>> >since I believe increasing spring length and spring rate,  without any
other
>> >modifications to the suspension, results in an overall loss of available
>> >travel out in real world conditions.
>> >
>> >There is no profit involved in the list purchase.
>> >steve
>> >
>> >David Marshall wrote:
>> >
>> >> From: David Marshall <david@volkswagen.org>
>> >>
>> >> Just so everyone knows, I offer Syncro springs (in stock) for $200 USD,
>> >> they are designed to lift your Syncro 4 to 5cm and are 15% stiffer than
>> >> stock...  Please check out http://www.fastforward.ca for details.
>> >>
>> >> At 13:17 25/05/1999 -0700, Steven X. Schwenk wrote:
>> >> >From: "Steven X. Schwenk" <Steve@Schwenk-Law.com>
>> >> >
>> >> >As previously reported, I have been working with Betts
>> >> >Spring co www.bettsspring.com to come up with some
>> >> >replacement springs for the syncro.
>> >> >
>> >> >These springs will be top quality, peened, heat set (or
>> >> >something like that) and powder coated.  Betts had my syncro
>> >> >springs for a week and tested them for rate, etc.  I will
>> >> >also be taking my syncro to Betts witht he stock springs in
>> >> >place for final gathering of data before production.
>> >> >
>> >> >The springs I am going to have made will be somewhere
>> >> >between 15% and 20% stiffer than stock.  This is the last
>> >> >detail we need to work out.  The ride height will be very
>> >> >near stock, perhaps a 1/2" taller than stockers.  These
>> >> >springs are not intended to increase ride height since we
>> >> >want full performance from the stock suspension and unduly
>> >> >increasing ride height limits the amount of travel available
>> >> >for use in real world conditions.
>> >> >
>> >> >The more we order, the cheaper they'll be.  If i can get a
>> >> >total of five orders, the price per spring is one-half what
>> >> >it would be for just one pair. (from about $125 per spring
>> >> >to about $70 per spring.)  Thus far we have 3 people who
>> >> >want them.
>> >> >
>> >> >Let me know if you are interested.  Also let me know how
>> >> >muchg stiffer you think they shopuld be.  the plan is to not
>> >> >make them too much stiffer....they do not need to be a whole
>> >> >lot stiffer.  The rears seem fine and we want to be able to
>> >> >use the new fronts with the stock rears anfd still have them
>> >> >balanced.
>> >> >steve
>> >> >
>> >>
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