

| Subject: | Re: Who has the real skinny on R-12? |
| From: | M.R. Nimmo |
| Date: | Sat, 12 Jun 1999 21:58:11 -0700 |
Not to mention the automakers. After all, who wins when Joe Sixpack takes his 91 Taurus to Honest Ernies for an A/C service, only to find that Ernie needs $800-1500 to convert the system to CFC-free. Just as easy to buy a new car sez Joe. Ditto with emissions testing. Notice the carmakers have quietly conceded to these measures also. --- "Mark B. Magee" <condor2@FLASH.NET> wrote: > Steven, et. al., > You bring up a good point; Monied Interests. From my > review of the case for CFC's zapping the ozone layer > is -very- weak. There are some interesting facts > however: > 1) CFC/R12/Freon was patented by DuPont Corp in the > US and abroad many years ago. 2) 2) With slight > tweaking of this molecule they (DuPont) was able to > attain patent extension spanning nearly 50 years. > 3) When it was apparent that no more patent > extensions would be granted, this about 8-10 years > ago, DuPont began (very cleverly from a business > perspective) to send -huge- amounts of cash in the > form of grant $$ to college professors who were just > starting to theorize on ozone depletion due to CFC > atmospheric release. > 4) With this newfound $$, this relatively small > cadre of scientists published thier findings and > made a lot of excitement within the press of thier > theory. > 5) All the while, in the background, DuPont just > happen to be able to patent the R-12 replacement, > HF-134a, and have it officially approved by the EPA, > and accepted among the major automakers in light of > many competing companies with replacement molecules. > 6) The scientist making hay over the CFC issue, were > successful w/Dupont cash to get R-12 banned > world-wide. > 7) With R-12 now banned, no one can produce it > "generically", and DuPont is making all the cash > worldwide on the new refrigerant HF-134a. > > You draw your own conclusions, I'll follow the > money/greed as the primary motivator in this entire > issue. For the science is theoretical at best. > > > Steven X. Schwenk wrote: > > > I know...and all this crap about the world > being round, i don't believe that, either. We would > all fall off! :~) sorry, couldn't resist. > Ok...what's thew conspiracy, then? What possible > motivation to buy off reputable scientists world > wide? Sure, not everyone agrees...at least not > yet.... too many monied interests for that to happen > quickly > > ... but with the potential harm so great, does it > not make sense to err on the side of caution until > we know more? > > ><> ><> ><> ><> ><> ><> ><> > ><> ><> > Shalom > 87 GL > Mark Magee > 91 Westy > Kemah TX USA 96 > Suzuki 4WD Sport > John 14:6 > _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com
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