

| Subject: | Re: Syncro Engine Block Heater Mystery Solved!! (long story, happy en ding) |
| From: | David Marshall |
| Date: | Thu, 24 Jun 1999 21:01:23 -0700 |
Or better yet, install an inline four or inline five engine! :) At 20:52 24/06/1999 -0500, Marshall Ruskin wrote: >Sorry to "rain on your parade" - I have the same heater...... > >It basically heats the oil that sits in the bottom of the pan, or so it >seems. Doesn't heat up the block. It does not do a good enough job to enable >good starting in our winters. > >We have really really cold winters in Winnipeg! > >What would be better is a heater that would fit into the frost plugs of the >block - that's how normally a block heater works - keeps the coolant warm. >My 84 Westy doesn't have frost plugs! - give me a break (pun)! > >An reasonable alternative to the aforementioned pan heater is a heater that >gets inserted into a rad hose. (thermostat controlled) They really work! >Pretty expensive here ($30 - $40 CDN) for such things - but are readily >available. > >Hope this helps. > >Marshall Ruskin > >-----Original Message----- >From: Fitz-Randolph, Douglas <dfrandolph@TALKAM.NET> >To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM <vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM> >Date: Thursday, June 24, 1999 5:42 PM >Subject: Syncro Engine Block Heater Mystery Solved!! (long story, happy en >ding) > > >>I realize this isn't really the season when people think about stuff like >>this, but I was sooo excited I had to tell someone who *might* care... >> >>After some particularly cold weather back in February, I started trying to >>find out about getting a block heater for my '90 syncro who does lots of >>nasty things on very cold mornings. Went to the VW dealer - they had one - >a >>little metal "brick" that bolted onto the bottom of the engine case. It was >>part# ZVP 289 104 and, according to the book, fit all Vanagons, EXCEPT the >>syncro. Nothing at all was available for the syncro - Bummer! Then I ran >>across Harry Yates' website when he was selling his syncro Westie - and he >>had a block heater listed as one of the options. I e-mailed him, and he was >>good enough to go out and look under his van to get the part numbers. He >>gave me the following: "CSA Model OP-8 LR 20976 Made in Canada". I couldn't >>find any reference to that part anywhere, and it appeared to be a non-VW >>part. Where to find one? Who knows. Oh well. >> >>I then posted a question about the topic on the westfalia.org forum. Mike >>Soehnlein (Capt. Mike) responded that he had fit the non-syncro VW part >(ZVP >>289 104) on his syncro, but in looking at it, it looked like he had to bend >>the part a bit and drop the skid frame to get it in. Hmmm... >> >>Shortly thereafter, I posted a question to the Vanagon list - several >people >>replied - I believe they were all from Canada - with the same info as >Harry: >>"Model OP-8 etc." It was beginning to look like this was a Canada-only >part. >>David Hayward even had the original part number from his invoice - it was >A >>009 203 H. I called the dealer in BC he recommended, as well as a few other >>Canadian dealers - no luck. The A 009 203 H number was obsolete and had >>been replaced with the ZVP 289 104 number. Oh well, I thought, they must >>have found a new supplier for the part when they changed the number, and >the >>new model doesn't fit the syncro. >> >>About a month ago, I was ordering some parts from Bus Depot - Ron had the >>ZVP 289 104 block heater for not too much $, so I figured I'd give it a >shot >>and see just how much I'd have to bend it to make it fit. When I placed the >>order, Ron (correctly) told me that this part won't fit the syncro models. >>"I know", I said. >> >>Well, when the order arrived on my front porch, I went right for the block >>heater. It was in a nice, sturdy little box clearly labeled ZVP 289 104. I >>opened the box and pulled out the shiny little thing and lo and behold - >>what was stamped on it but "CSA Model OP-8 LR 20976 Made in Canada"! They >>were the same part all along!! (And the "CSA" was that electrical >>certification symbol you see on all kinds of electrical items (a circle >with >>the SA inside of the C), and the "LR 20976" must be the certificate number, >>cause my coffee maker's got an "LR number" too!) >> >>It fit my syncro just fine - I didn't even have to drop the skid frame. It >>was as simple as removing one nut and one bolt, bending one of the little >>tabs slightly to clear the stud on the engine case, then replacing the nut >>and bolt. I used a bunch of zip-ties to safely route the cord up to the >>license plate door and voila! One engine block heater installed, probably >>about 40 minutes work! >> >>I wish all Vanagon stories had such a happy ending! Thanks to all who >>contributed. >> >>Doug Fitz-Randolph >>Yarmouth, ME >>dfrandolph@talkam.net >>'90 Syncro >> > > -- David Marshall - Vanagon List Admin - Quesnel, BC, Canada -- -- 78 VW Rabbit, 80 VW Caddy, 84 VW Westie, 85 VW Cabriolet -- -- 87 Audi 5000 Quattro, 88 2.0L VW Syncro Double Cab -- -- David's Volkswagen Home Page http://www.volkswagen.org -- -- Fast Forward Autobahn Sport Tuning http://www.fastforward.ca -- -- david@volkswagen.org (pmail) or vanagon@volkswagen.org (list) --
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