In a message dated 99-09-24 08:51:04 EDT, you write:

<< 5 Love to be around VW people >>

  How true! I recently bought a Jeep Wrangler ( sorry, I guess I lose points
for that) and being new to Jeeps, I had a couple of questions, so I found a
Jeep newsgroup and posted my question. Not only did I not get an answer, all
I got were responses that were insulting and downright obscene! I've never
gotten treatment like that from any VW group. Anybody wanna buy a Jeep?    VW
folks are the best!!    Jeff S.