

| Subject: | Re: Engine balancing |
| From: | John Rodgers |
| Date: | Thu, 2 Dec 1999 11:48:04 -0600 |
Well, I'm totally new to this thing of balancing automotive engines, but I am learning about it. While there may be someone or shops who do the whole thing in-house, any shop that overhauls your engine should be able to get it done. Like myself, you can have your mechanic out-source the machine-shop and balancing work. Some I have learned about are: Demello in California (sometimes found in Hot VW's Mag.) Hesco in Birmingham, Alabama ---Top notch/ the ultimate in this area, do racing engines, Lamborgini's, Ferrari's, etc.....but pricey!! T-Huff in North Carolina. Just to name a few. I'm sure there are others. John Rodgers "88GL Driver wannabe Davidson wrote: > Is the anyone who rebuilds 'balanced' engines professionally? ... like where > could I buy one if I don't have the skills or patience to do it myself? > Bill > 90 Westy Syncro > -----Original Message----- > From: Bulley <gmbulley@BULLEY-HEWLETT.COM> > To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM <vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM> > Date: Thursday, December 02, 1999 3:29 AM > Subject: Re: Engine balancing > > >-----Original Message----- > >From: John Rodgers [SMTP:inua@SCOTT.NET] > >Sent: Wednesday, December 01, 1999 11:47 PM > >To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM > >Subject: Engine balancing > > > >Can anyone explain to me the process/procedure for balancing the > >internal parts of an engine....pistons, rods, etc, and dynamic balancing > >of the entire rotating assembly.....pistons, rods, crank, flywheel and > >clutch plate. How do they do that on automotive engines? > > > >Yes, someone can. I am one who can, and will. > > > >Do machine > >shops literally grind a little material off the piston skirts or some > >other place until the pistons match the lightest one in the bunch? > > > >Yes. > > > >Is it similar for rods. > > > >Yes. > > > >Where is the typical location to remove material? > > > >For rods, not only do they match the members of the set one to another, > >they also match to weight of the rod end-to-end. If you imagine a rod being > >shaped roughly like the classic "dog bone" (femur) they balance the ends to > >be identical. > > > >What considerations must be given in each case? > > > >Not sure I understand the question. Basically, anything that spins, or > >reciprocates in a motor is a candidate for balancing. Machinists know where > >they can, and cannot take off metal. > > > >How would one balance a crankshaft? > > > >One would take it to a machine shop, where it would be mated with the > >flywheel, clutch, & clutch cover, then spun on a machine (like a tire > >balancer). The educated machinist use the figures from the machine to judge > >where to mill off metal in judicious locations, like forge marks, and throw > >ends. > > > >And where would the metal be removed? > > > >As above. > > > >And what do you look out for? > > > >Not sure what you mean. Look out for shops that could get to it > >immediately, or that predominantly have tractor parts, or bicycle parts in > >the shop. Look for other VW motors. Talk with the machinist. > > > >Years ago <<<snip>>>> > > > >This service runs anywhere from $50 to $150. I paid $100 here in Raleigh at > >the renowned T-HOFF. You may be interested in a counter-weighted crank, > >which further eliminates vibrations/harmonic imbalance in your motor. There > >is a little more information on my website about motor balancing/CW > >cranks... http://www.bulley-hewlett.com/VWindex The dollar figures I quote > >there are guesses (and I say it). The cost of a CW crank was $350 for my > >motor, and as I said, my balance was $100. > > > >Good luck, it is the best money you will spend when rebuilding. > > > >G. Matthew Bulley > >Bulley-Hewlett > >Corporate Communications Counselors > >www.bulley-hewlett.com > >Cary, NC USA > >888.468.4880 tollfree > > > >------------------------------------------------------------------------ > >---------------------- > >Get your FREE semi-private E-mail account, use your computer at work. > > > > > >-----Original Message----- > >From: John Rodgers [SMTP:inua@SCOTT.NET] > >Sent: Wednesday, December 01, 1999 11:47 PM > >To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM > >Subject: Engine balancing > > > >Can anyone explain to me the process/procedure for balancing the > >internal parts of an engine....pistons, rods, etc, and dynamic balancing > >of the entire rotating assembly.....pistons, rods, crank, flywheel and > >clutch plate. How do they do that on automotive engines? Do machine > >shops literally grind a little material off the piston skirts or some > >other place until the pistons match the lightest one in the bunch? Is it > >similar for rods. Where is the typical location to remove material? What > >considerations must be given in each case? How would one balance a > >crankshaft? And where would the metal be removed? And what do you look > >out for? > > > >Years ago I used to balance cranks and aircraft propellers some. The > >cranks would be put on a knife edge device and if something was not > >right it would roll right over with the heavy side down. Propellers same > >way. A stub shaft was mounted through the hub assembly an the whole > >thing set on a knife edge. It would always rotate to heaviest side down. > >In some of the propellers you would add lead wool to hollow bolts to get > >the balance right, or add or remove lead washers in certain parts of the > >propeller. > > > >But i have no idea how it is done in the automotive world. > > > >Any input would be appreciated. > > > >Thanks, > > > >John Rodgers > >"88GL driver wannabe > >
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