

| Subject: | Re: words, WTO, DM /F |
| From: | Mike Miller |
| Date: | Mon, 6 Dec 1999 15:54:47 -0800 |
Same thing happened in LA in the Watts riots of '65. About 2-300 peaceful demonstrators and a dozen or so idiots screaming 'Burn it down'. Guess where the TV cameras were focused? Mike 85 Westy[I coulda used it in Watts] ----- Original Message ----- From: Doktor Tim <doktortim@ROCKISLAND.COM> To: <vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM> Sent: Saturday, December 04, 1999 9:15 AM Subject: Re: words, WTO, DM /F > At 10:27 AM 12/03/1999 -0800, you wrote: > >A friend and I were discussing the media coverage of the WTO meeting in > >Seattle. > > > >The word "curfew" came up and she told me that it is from the French (old) > >cuevrefeu, couvrir (cover) + feu (fire). Meaning, its time (in the evening) > >to cover or put your fire out - perhaps to help hide from attack? > > > >Now it means to stay indoors. > > > >Now, Dr. Tim should agree that the Germans have a much better term, > > > >"Ausgangverbot - it is forbidden to go out" > > > >Mind you I just can't imagine the authorities using the German term! > > > >Alistair > > Doktor Tim's reply: > > Oxford English Dictionary: > > Curfew: (cover + fire) A regulation by which, at a fixed hour in the > evening, a bell was rung, as a signal that fires were to be extinguished. > > Cassell's German-English Dictionary: > > Ausgang: 3. time or day or afternoon or evening off (for a servant), free > time. > > Verbot: prohibition; inhibition; suppression; veto; ban. > > Translation, free time forbidden to servants. > > The meaning may be similar, but it is not quite the same as putting out the > fire. Just goes to show how poorly language translations can sometimes > create misunderstanding. > > Further from Cassell's: > > Curfew: ...., Polizeistunde. > > Polizei: Police > > Stunde: hour; period, lesson; distance covered in an hour. > > I think "police hour" is most appropriate to the Battle in Seattle. I am > amazed that the throwing of tear gas at the peaceful, permited crouds of > legitimate protesters was of greater concern to the authorities that 3 or 5 > officers were not given the responsability to arrest the dozen or so of > hooligans responsable for destruction of property. The media as well should > be truly asshamed at focusing on the few a**holes who used the legitimate > civil disobediants as a cover for their vandalism. Social sanctions were > grossly miss applied here. The lawless got away with bulls**t, the lawful > were penalized. One more flag flies to signal social deterioration by this > blatant misapplication of otherwise good law by those charged with the > pursuit of justice. Proof that in this case that justice was surely blind. > > > T.P. Stephens aka Doktor Tim > Surveyor, Mechanic, Poet, Philosopher > San Juan Island, WA
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