

| Subject: | Re: Hex Wrenches |
| From: | Davidson |
| Date: | Sat, 25 Dec 1999 08:11:51 -0800 |
Dan, I copied the old post below that Joel Walker sent me over a year ago when I asked a similar question. Hope it helps. Bill -----Original Message----- From: Joel Walker <jwalker@tusc.net> To: Davidson <wdavidson@JPS.NET> Date: Sunday, November 22, 1998 1:25 PM Subject: Re: tools question; >> Well, I noticed that the set of wrenches and sockets are missing certain >> sizes in the sequence. And there are many sizes that are duplicated between >> the 1/4, 3/8, & 1/2 drives (& regular/deep sockets). > >general Rule of Thumb: germans use ODD-sizes on their nuts and >bolts. except below 11mm. that is, you'll need 10mm, 8mm, and >6mm. but NOT 14mm, 16mm, 18mm. like that. > >2nd Rule of Thumb: six-sided sockets are better than 12-sided >sockets (which is what Sears tries to sell you at first). the >six-sided ones do NOT round off the nuts as easily. yes, they can >be a little harder to get ON at first, but they're better. > >> So my questions are: >> 1. Are the missing sizes needed for a Vanagon? > >not usually. > >> 2. Are the duplicated sizes necessary? > >sometimes. you don't want to use a 1/2-drive wrench on engine >bolts/nuts. it's too easy to break the bolt. really. about the >only time you'll need/want the 1/2-drive wrench and sockets is >for suspension and the wheel lug nuts/bolts. don't even use it on >the exhaust. mostly the 3/8-inch size is used. the smaller one, >1/4-inch, is usually, however, in odd places, and it doesn't take >up too much room, so take it along. > >> 3. Are there other tools I should definitely take that are not on my list >> below? > >see below. > >> 4. Are the Standard wrenches & sockets needed for anything other than the >> Westy interior? > >?? i don't think they'll be of any use at all. Westy interior is >mostly metric, isn't it? i mean, a bunch of germans put it >together. ?? i'm gonna be disappointed to find out i have to go >buy standard sized tools!! :( > >> Any way here's what I have: >> METRIC sockets: >> 1/4"-- 4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13mm ........... deep sockets: >4,5,6,7,8,9,10 > >you can leave out the 4mm and 5mm. also the 12mm. i can't think >of when i've used a 9mm or a 7mm, but i'm not sure. so you might >leave them in. actually, i don't think i've ever need the deep >sockets. i just carry the little "kit" in its own box. > >> 3/8"-- 8,9,10,11,12,13,14,15,16mm ........ deep sockets: 9,10,11,12,13,14 > >12 and 14 and 16 are pretty much useless. the 10, 11, 13, 15, and >17 are the most used. i'd recommend a short (non-deep) 17 and >even a 19 in this size. > >> 1/2"-- 17,18,19,--,21,22,--,24mm > >18 can go away. you'll never need it. the 19 is good for the lug >nuts/bolts. but you'll want to get a loooong breaker bar to use >with it, and a short (4") extension (so you can clear the tire >when taking lug nuts/bolts off). get the longest non-ratchet >breaker bar you can find. i think mine is about 22" long. >and the 19mm is also the size you'll need to get the spare tire >bolt off. > >>STANDARD sockets: > >i don't carry or keep any of these. except for the spark plug >socket (i think it's 13/16ths ... it's sold as a "spark plug >socket"). > >> METRIC combination wrenches: >> 8, 9, 10,--, 12, 13, --, 15, 16 ,17, 18mm (are 11,14mm not needed?) > >11mm is definitely needed. the even sizes generally are not, >except for 10mm. >and you can skip the 14-16mm and the 18mm. 12 is not used either. > >> STANDARD combination wrenches: > >again, i don't even carry any standard sizes. > >> 1/4 x 3" extension, 3/8 x 3" & 6"extensions, & 1/2 to 3/8 adapter > >get a longer, 6" 1/4 extension. and a loooong 3/8 extension, like >10". also get a >1/4-3/8 adapter. it came in handy once. a 3/8-1/2 adapter would >be good. > >> Metric Hex Keys: 1.5, 2, 2.5, 3, 4, 4.5, 5, 5.5, 6, 7, 8mm > >yes. and any bigger metric hex keys you can find. your >transmission oil drain and fill plugs are 17mm. it's also a good >idea to get the metric hex-socket set from Sears. comes in a >plastic bag. this allows you to put a socket on the ratchet >wrench, but the socket has a hex key sticking out of it. this is >wonderful for the cv joint bolts. and other things. also they >have a set of screwdriver-sockets ... same thing,but with >different sizes of screwdriver heads in the socket. > >also get the Sears Torx screwdriver with several size bits >(stored in the handle). this is used for the little vent windows >up on the front doors (the only place i've ever used them). > >> Standard Hex Keys: 5/64, 3/32, 7/64, 1/8, 9/64, 5/32, 3/16, 7/32, 1/4, >> 5/16, 3/8 > >never had any use for them. > >> Assortment of Slotted and Philips Screw Drivers > >definitely. large and small, long and short, wide and thin. and >the Z-shaped ones, with a flat (or phillips) head on each end. >not often, but sometimes useful (like tightening the vent window >clamp, up inside the front doors, that determines how easy the >vent window is to open/close). > >> Small & Large Crescent (sp?) wrenches > >yup. > >> Regular Pliers & Needle nose Pliers > >definitely. and some angled-cutters (dykes). and some Lineman's >pliers (big brutish-looking things). > >> Large Channel Licks > >well ... maybe medium-sized. only used them to remove a stuck oil >filter, and to get the coolant level sensor out of the coolant >tank. :) > >> Wire strippers, crimpers, 12v tester, electrical tape, assorted >> connectors, hack saw blade, small cinch ties > >yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes. :) but get something to use >that hack saw blade IN ... like a handle or small hacksaw. it >hurts your hand a LOT if you try to use the blade by itself! :( > >what else: >- torque wrench. for tightening the lug nuts. big 1/2" size. >costs about $70. > needs to go up to 150 ft-lbs. >- torque wrench. for tightening most everything else. 3/8" size. >costs about $40. > needs to go up to about 80-90 ft-lbs. >- rolls of wire. 14 guage, 25 feet. maybe two or three colors. >just for parnoia's sake. :) >- duct tape!!!! two rolls of the good stuff!!! you CAN limp home >with this holding your cooling system together! >- paper towels and a spray bottle of Windex. for cleaning >headlights and windshield. >- baby wipes. and fast orange spray cleaner. for cleaning YOU >after working on the bus. :) also the baby wipes come in really >handy for cleaning hands and fingers after eating barbecued >chicken. ;) keeps the steering wheel from getting really greasy. >- tow strap. big mutha, with hooks on both ends. get at least >6000-lb capacity. yup., MORE than your bus weighs. 10,000-lb >would be better but costs more. >- spare bulbs for lights of various places. >- spare fuses. lots of them. >- spare lug nuts and bolts!!! at least TEN of each! trust me, >this will let you sleep at night. it ain't fun to lose one of >those buggers in the dirt/sand/mud when changing a tire! >- rain jacket/parka ... flat tires don't always occur in sunny >weather. :( >- flares/signal lights/cyalume "light sticks" (get the 12-hour >kind) for warning other people of your being parked on the side >of the road, or for flagging down help. >- and speaking of help, cb radio. and maybe a ham radio 2m >handheld. for really reaching out to get help. means having to >have a license, but no morse code is required now. expensive, >though. :( cellular phone? >- small folding army-surplus shovel. get a GOOD one, not those >asian knock-offs. >- survival blankets. the thin foil-lined kind. it gets really >cold in the desert at night. > >anyway, i can go on and on about the stuff i carry around in my >non-syncro camper. :) mostly spares (oil filter, 5 cans of oil, 1 >gallon of pre-mixed 50-50 coolant, air filter, windshield wiper >blades) and such. oh, yeah, >- MATCHES. lots of matches. safety kind, of course. candles. >bug-repellent kind, if possible. > >good luck! hope it helps. >joel -----Original Message----- From: Dan Fleming <ddffpc@HOME.COM> To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM <vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM> Date: Friday, December 24, 1999 8:13 PM Subject: Hex Wrenches >Okay list, I'm preparing to take off on an extended road trip, and I'm >trying to remember the sizes of metric hex wrenches necessary for >Vanagon repairs. > >I know there is a 6mm or so on some of the water pipes near the water >pump, and a larger one on the starter. > >Anyone have this stuff memorized? What sizes (and configurations) of hex >wrenches and other special tools are necessary? > >Thanks > >DDF >
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